Interesting Audio Clips from AGM

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As requested by some members who were unable to attend the AGM last Friday and Saturday, we have decided to include here some extracts of the audio recording of the AGM so that you can understand the feelings and exasperation of members seeking for truth, transparency and Godly governance in our church during the Meeting. As the task of listening and editing the recording is a tedious process, we will be updating this post with new additions every now and then.

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The Meeting was scheduled to start at 7pm. The first 1.5 hours was spent on roll call, a sermon by SP, followed by Communion and then a short greeting by Pastor Guynes. The actual business meeting started at around 8.30pm, when the Meeting was handed over to the Resolution Chairman, Pastor Ronnie Chin.

Clip 1: In this first audio clip, you will notice that the Chairman has the tendency to give a mini "sermon" before and after each person speaks. You will also notice how bias his opinions are, and how one- sided his decision is and how legalistic his approach is, in acting as the Chaiman for our AGM.


Clip 2: (About 9pm) In this second audio clip, you will notice how the Chairman seems to be prolonging the proceedings by encouraging debates and objections to the Resolution.
Latest addition on motion to appoint SCRUTINEERS posted on 29.06.09. The additions includes the ridiculous scrutiny of SP's supporters for the proposed scrutineers, the "accidental" oversight of ushers, pastors & chairman when an associate member (SP's supporter) spoke out and the chairman disallowing a member to share his personal thoughts. This same rule was not applied by the chairman, when the Resolution to close blogs was called for later. (Clip 5)


Clip 3: (About 10.10pm) In this audio clip on Ratification of SP's appointment, you will notice the manner important decisions are made by the BOD, without due consideration of it's long term implication.


Clip 4: The first 7 minutes contains the Resolution for AG Council intervention. Notice only Robert, the proposer got to speak from the floor. Bro Robert is one of the original Charter members from Jalan Sayor back then. There was no open discussion. The rest is a collection of interesting dialogues taken from both days of the meetings. There was a lapse of about 1 hour in between the motion to complete all the Resolutions on saturday night @ 11pm and the final decision to adjourn @ 12 midnight, whereby the above resolution and the one to close blogs was carried out. At the end, "words from SP's mouth" is note worthy, whereby he instructed his "bouncers" to take their positions to be ready to "throw out" members who voiced out their emotions loudly. These are not the usual ushers but specially selected men.
Just added, the rights of the Associate Members (23:20 mins into clip).


Clip 5: In this clip, you will hear "hurt my feelings," "very disturbed," "an embarassment" but no "unconstitutional," or "violates church constitution" as basis of support for the Resolution to close blogs. It's all about "saving face". No consideration was given to the member's needs, rights and freedom to express themselves. The testimony of SP's supporters seeks to cast a bad light on other church pastors as being unfriendly and uncaring. This is not true as many who have left are now being "nursed" by other Pastors for their "hurts and wounds". Then the Church Constitution came back to play the next day when the Resolution for a new Constitution Review Committee was rejected.


Clip 6 - The final clip: In this clip you hear the Chairman & SP speak the same language, when reminding members to appreciate the priviledge of clarification given by them. It is not our right to speak so we must be grateful to them. We also want to pose the one million dollar question to the Resolution Chairman, "What has Manchester United got to do with issues brought out at our Church AGM?" Then in the later part, you will hear the saddest Q & A at the AGM 2009.